COMPETITION AND INFORMATION AMONG BRITISH COLUMBIA SALMON PURSE SEINERS

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Max Ledbetter


Research indicates that purse seines caught 80%-90% of the vulnerable migrating salmon present in Johnstone Strait during what were commonly 48- or 72-hour fishing openings.



Some might recall Al Meadow's comments (Cockpit Comments. Western Fisheries 102 (August 1981): 28), "I'll be reviewing a study known as the Ledbetter Report in a future comment. This report is about the seine boat fishery in Johnstone Strait and I have heard disturbing news that the Fisheries Service is attempting to water down and suppress it." Mr. Meadows, in the December 1981 issue, continued: "Max Ledbetter, writing in the guest editorial section of the October issue, is, I feel, pulling some punches and not telling the full story. He is, however, absolutely correct in his summation, where he suggests that fishermen had better develop communication amongst themselves and their various gear types. Recent history has shown us, and the fact that wild chinook and coho are on the verge of extinction further reinforces the realization that we cannot depend on the D.F.O. to do the job," (Cockpit Comments. Western Fisheries 103 (December 1981): 11).

Later, towards the end of the twentieth century, Pascual and Quinn reported, "The best available information about the spatial distribution of sockeye salmon in this area [Johnstone Strait] comes from experimental fishing cruises performed in 1985 and 1986 (Cooke et al. 1987) and surveys of the distribution of fishing effort (Ledbetter 198[6])." (See Pascual, M. A. and T. P. Quinn. 1991. Canadian Journal of Fisheries and Aquatic Sciences 48: 799-810, and my dissertation, Ledbetter, Max. 1986. University of British Columbia.)

The dissertation (Ledbetter, Max. 1986. Competition and information among British Columbia salmon purse seiners. Ph.D. diss., University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C.) can be obtained from the National Library of Canada and UMI (see below). Here is the abstract:

In British Columbia, Canada, salmon purse seiners line up at fishing access points, forming well defined queues. These queues were measured over time in Johnstone Strait using a one-dimensional recording scale. Sixty-one overflights of the fishing area were attempted; 51 flights were completed.

Two models were presented for exploitation rates in relation to queuing patterns. The overflight model was based upon the line-up distributions, and assumed that information was good (analysis of variance methods, utilizing skippers' logbook data, showed that line-up lengths reflected catch rates). The model fit well and the parameter estimates reflected anecdotal and statistical information about fish behavior. The exploitation rates saturated at an effort level of 100 vessels (whereas the maximum effort observed was 363 boats) and indicated that (at saturation) the fleet caught 80% to 90% of the vulnerable migrating salmon present in Johnstone Strait during what were commonly 48- or 72-hour fishing openings.

In general, traditional assumptions were rejected. Vessels did not operate independently. Boats were not distributed in a random fashion. The overflight model provided predicted exploitation rates. The exploitation response to effort was qualitatively distinct from the forms incorporated in traditional models.



HOW TO OBTAIN A COPY OF THE DISSERTATION

Ledbetter, Max. 1986. Competition and information among British Columbia salmon purse seiners. Ph.D. diss., University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C.


Hello Max,

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Citing declining numbers of salmon and low prices, Governor seeks federal aid by comparing Alaska's fishing industry to Midwest farming

By Mike Chambers
Associated Press - Aug. 27, 2001

JUNEAU, Alaska - Gov. Tony Knowles declared western Alaska's commercial fishing sector an economic disaster on Friday, Aug. 24, [2001] a step toward seeking federal aid for the beleaguered industry.

Officials compared the industry - which is suffering from dwindling numbers of salmon and low prices - to past Midwest farm failures which prompted federal crop supports to help growers weather poor markets.

Some fishermen are calling for a federal or state buyback of fishing permits - which at Bristol Bay can cost about $40,000 each, in an effort to thin out the western Alaska fleet, Golia said.

But Knowles spokesman Bob King said that idea could cost tens of millions of dollars and there's no guarantee it would effectively reduce the number of commercial fishing operations.



Recently, The Guardian newspaper (Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island, Canada, 13 Nov. 2001, "Islanders argue inshore fishery has no room for huge N.B. seiners") reported, and thefishingnews.com News Wire message board (http://www.thefishingnews.com/cgi-bin/news_wire.pl) then reprinted,

There is no room for large New Brunswick herring seiners to fish in an inshore Island zone, P.E.I. Fishermen's Association president Donnie Strongman says.

"The only reason they are here is because other inshore fishermen, even those in their own province, have kicked them out of inshore areas," Strongman said.

Campbell said fishermen across the Island believe these large vessels can and will devastate the herring stocks.

"We will insist that federal fisheries take action next season."





Here are a few e-mail responses (to this Web page and to my message-board postings) and my replies:

Hi Max!
I'm surfing around tonight and I've seen your posts in a few forums. In short your info re: BC Commercial Salmon Fishing is old news and posted in the wrong forums-those FF Guys don't give a s*** either way. Also the info you present is old.
The situation here in BC is that David Anderson-when he was Federal Fisheries Minister- got Sportfishermen priority on the Chinook and Coho stocks with Commercials receiving the majority of Pink, Chum and Sockeye-all of us after Conservation & native AFS Fisheries of course. The seine fishery in Johnstone Straight may look ugly-Hell it is ugly-but it's supported by the best scientific advice-tempered of course by political considerations-that the FOC can find.
Your feeble attempt to tie Pacific and Atlantic Salmon Fisheries together somehow-and after reading your site I'm still not sure how- shows how little you know about the Pacific Salmon situation.
One day you may indeed be "doctor of philosophy of something" but for the moment you need to inform yourself better/present your findings in the proper forum.
Start here if you want some action
www.fishbc.com
www.sportfishingbc.com

(17 Nov. 2001)


My reply follows:

I'm retired from fisheries (thank God) and living in Ontario--last time I was in B.C. was 1987. Furthermore, yours is just one opinion regarding old but, it seems to me, still relevant research: fishing power. In fact, the resource management papers published in the Canadian Journal of Fisheries and Aquatic Sciences have not progressed much since 1986. Same old stuff. I guess some of the jargon is new. . . .

And how does a seine separate the coho from the pinks in Johnstone Strait (etc.)?

Thanks for insulting my Ph.D. status before reading the dissertation: It's in the UBC library. . . . If you have been surfing, you must know that numerous small-boat owners worldwide are virtually up in arms at large fishing boats (i.e., quite concerned about fishing power) and have called for a global strike on World Fisheries Day, 21 Nov. (see the WORLD FORUM OF FISHER PEOPLES: http://www.wffp.org/?file1=globalstrikeposter.htm).

Max Ledbetter (18 Nov. 2001)

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Re:-"last time I was in B.C. was 1987"
My point exactly-you are completely out of touch.
"And how does a seine separate the coho from the pinks in Johnstone Strait" Seiners are now are (sic) all required to carry tanks which are used to revive any Coho taken. Coho are brailed-do you know what that means?-out of the seine and placed in the revival tanks-with excellent results. If your info were in any way current you'd know this.
As to "me/mine" I'm a Sportfisherman of 40+ years experience here in BC, Ontario, coastal Oregon, Mexico, Costa Rica, Ecuador and Fiji-I've spent more time in a small boat fishing than many people have at work. Because of my extensive first-hand experience I've seen the battles artesenal fisherman fight against factory-fishing operations. The situation here in Canada is in no way analogous to that in other climes-not even close.
Good Luck with your studies-I can only hope that upon your graduation that you don't end up in the employ of FOC-they have enough bumblers advising them as it is.

(18 Nov. 2001)


My reply follows:

I obtained my Ph.D. in 1986 (I'm 47), and I was both on the boats and in the air. Thirty-five seine skippers provided logbooks. So of course I know what brail means. If the B.C. industry wasn't so overcapitalized, it might not have to waste time brailing injured salmon, if indeed they do on a consistent basis. [The point here is that in response to my rhetorical question, the author of the preceding e-mail admitted that the seine itself (the net) does not separate coho from pinks and sockeye. A brail is a dip net used to haul fish aboard from the seine.]

My research on purse seines is still relevant: fishing power is still fishing power. Like they said on P.E.I., a fleet of purse seiners can wipe out a stock (anywhere in the world).

I doubt that you could understand my dissertation, and I have no intention of re-entering the realms of B.C. fisheries. Mine is simply an attempt to promote my past research.

Time will tell. . . .

Here is response from another reader:

Looks like a serious wrap, not too many places for a fish to high tail it to for survival. That's about as tight a wrap as I've ever seen. There's got to be some limits, has to be . . . Thanks for sharing. The dissertation must have been interesting, heck of a lot more interesting than what I did in school, finance . . .

Great Stuff,
Mark


Max Ledbetter (18 Nov. 2001)

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Mr. Ledbetter,
I think I see the connection you are making of the two cases [salmon seiners in B.C. and herring seiners in the Gulf of St. Lawrence]. However, are you aware that the Gulf [herring seiners] have access to 23% of the overall quota, they can't fish for roe (no access to spawning grounds), they don't catch immature fish, they have dockside monitoring and at sea observers, etc. . .

On the other hand, the inshore fishermen use gillnets on spawning grounds and have access to 77% of the quota. Knowing the limitation imposed to the seiners, is the fishing power of the seiners still a threat to stock conservation in your view? Thanks for your input.

(19 Nov. 2001)


My reply follows:

I am not, of course, an Atlantic expert. However, I often fail to see how general quotas protect individual stocks. I have seen seiners TARGET river mouths, inlets, rip tides, individual salmon stocks, ocean perch, chinook, squid, etc., and I have observed firsthand the damage the nets inflict on both mature and juvenile fish. From my field experience, which I doubt is now completely "old hat" (given what I read in the Canadian Journal of Fisheries and Aquatic Sciences), I know the general capabilities of the "pirates" within the fishing fleets.

Sincerely,

Max Ledbetter, Ph.D. (19 Nov. 2001)

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Thanks for your email and site. . . . I work with salmon and bears, especially the significant processes of nutrient transfer to forests which may account for their productivity. I am concerned about the over-mechanization of ocean harvest. What if we harvested mushrooms with bulldozers? I'm for terminal fisheries of salmon using sailboats.

I have flown over Port Hardy [during a commercial fishing opening]. Looks like a Marines invasion.

cheers
Barrie

(5 Dec. 2001)

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Dear Dr. Ledbetter,

Many thanks for providing us with the address of your website. We have read the information presented on the site and found it most useful.

The problem with European fleets is also one of over capacity. Many of our fish stocks are below biologically safe limits. The problem of bycatch is a severe one - non target fish species, cetaceans, turtles, seals and sea birds. Decommissioning of vessels does not reduce capacity, as the fishing quotas are sold to other fishermen who own more powerful vessels. At this time of year there are many purse seiners fishing for mackerel, pilchards etc. in the Western Approaches. In the same area are large pair trawlers, other pelagic trawlers, beam trawlers and driftnetters. It is a nightmare.

European politicians seem incapable of taking steps to deal with the fishing industry, effectively. The subsidies provided to the industry encourage over capacity.

We are involved in a campaign which is lobbying to have cetacean bycatch mitigation measures incorporated into the European Common Fisheries Policy. We are lobbying politicians and fishermen's organisations, and are asking our supporters to do likewise; lobbying supermarkets to provide consumers with information regarding the method of capture of their fish products, and to purchase fish caught using handlines and pole and lines; contacting as many artisanal fishermen as possible (those using handlines, and pole and line only), and asking them to provide as much sustainably caught fish as possible, therefore providing the consumer with the ability to buy fish which has been caught in a sustainable way; we then promote the fish caught using the methods mentioned.

Next year, we are planning a "Fish Free Week" throughout Europe, to demonstrate to politicians, the fishermen's organisations, and supermarkets that the public is not prepared to see the fishing industry destroy our seas, and the creatures living in, and dependent on, them.

I hope to contact the World Forum of Fisher People, as perhaps we might be able to help each other.

Thank you again.

I hope we can keep in contact.

Kind regards,

Mary

(9 Dec. 2001)

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Hi Dr. Ledbetter:

The only substantive comment that I'd make is that while the use of purse seiners may present management challenges in certain fisheries they are generally one of the most energy efficient vessel-based fish catching technologies around. Peter

(10 Dec. 2001)

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Max, a few questions come to mind not the least of which are: given the major changes in the dynamics of the fishery caused by BC deforestation, the SEP, the "New" U.S./Canada salmon treaty, and the collapse of BC and Puget Sound salmon stocks (a) are these fisheries still viable; (b) are they still located in these areas; (c) where to from here? I complement you on this innovative measurement technique and wish you the best in future. p

(10 Dec. 2001)

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Thanks for this, I will have a look.

Any further info will always be appreciated.

Liz

(10 Dec. 2001)

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The following was posted on www.sportfishingbc.com - 12/01/2001 : 10:35:25.

Thanks for the data. As a saltwater guide in 1957/58, it was common knowledge that sportfishing [in British Columbia] was finished for the week after a commercial opening. Things haven't changed. With the private boat licence buy backs it put the Fisheries into the hands of a few owners who will instruct the fleet to fish in the most efficient manner. Only the stragglers in a school of salmon manage to escape the nets. The big schools all get scooped up.

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I feel like I am somewhere in between El Nino, Parvicapsula minibicornis, a farm fish and a purse seiner.

Joey
Vancouver Island

(13 Jan. 2002)

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The following was posted on www.iboats.com - 22/03/2002.

Max, I can feel only a tiny bit better about what's happening in Washington (state) and Oregon. Our fish agencies keep very close tabs on the commercial fishery in, say, the Columbia River and Puget Sound, but for obvious reasons, usually don't have a real clue about what's happening before they get here. There are two conditions that have improved: 1) we are making good progress in hatching habitat, but, of course, much more needs to be done; 2) the "war" that goes on between Canadian and US fishers seems to be abating. On a very positive note, we're experiencing for the 2nd consecutive year a large spring and fall run in the Columbia. We trust El Nino will stay away.

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To the Fish-Sci list:

1) On Fri., 19 April 2002, 01:15:43 +0200, from the Fish-Sci Web interface, I posted "Aerial Surveillance: The BC Salmon Seiners." I assumed the list members received the post. (Did they?)

2) During May 2002, I added a links page to my site. On Wed., 22 May 2002, 17:19:00 +0200, from the Fish-Sci Web interface, I posted "Add your aquatic site." Your Web interface interpreted the characters (in the posted link) up to and including "Fisheries%" as the URL, printing the remainder of the URL address as text. Thus the link was inoperable (dead).

3) I tried posting from the Web interface again, twice, this time using HTML, and achieved a confusing (due to the fact that the HTML code appeared as text) but working link.

4) Since the "Add your aquatic site" posts were either confusing or inoperable (and since your Web interface does not work perfectly), I tried posting from my e-mail account on 23 May 2002: "The server is down. Add your aquatic link later." (The server containing my links page WAS down for 24 hours). The post (and those of 22 May) did not appear in the 22-23 or the 23-25 May (e-mailed) digest.

5) Apparently, my posts were not distributed to the list members (for reasons unknown to me), so today, 28 May, I changed the layout and posted again ("Competition and information among British Columbia salmon purse seiners").


Other lists have promptly, congenially, and transparently posted and verified "Competition and information among British Columbia salmon purse seiners," or "Part of the History of Overfishing Salmon," or "Aerial Surveillance: The BC Salmon Seiners."

Max Ledbetter, Ph.D.

(28 May 2002) (revised)

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In partial summary, the question is one of fishing power--the ability of gear, boats, or fleets, in the B.C. and P.E.I. cases and others, to exploit or overexploit fish stocks. Without a historical perspective based on quantitative (and innovative) field research, we are doomed to repeat our work loads: In the absence of chronicled (and often necessarily alternative) time series of fishing effort and its effectivity (fishing power), stock assessment and fisheries management become absurd. Like they said on P.E.I., a fleet (or transient cluster) of purse seiners can wipe out a stock (anywhere in the world). Max Ledbetter


References

Ledbetter, M. 1986. Competition and information among British Columbia salmon purse seiners. Ph.D. diss., Univ. British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C.

Hilborn, R. and M. Ledbetter. 1985. Determinants of catching power in the British Columbia salmon purse-seine fleet. Can. J. Fish. Aquat. Sci. 42: 51-56.

Ledbetter, M. 1981. Guest Editorial. Western Fisheries 103: 17.

Ledbetter, M. and R. Hilborn. 1981. A numerical overview of salmon run timings in British Columbia catch areas. Cooperative Fisheries Research Unit (University of British Columbia), Report Number 1.

Hilborn, R. and M. Ledbetter. 1979. Analysis of the British Columbia salmon purse-seine fleet: dynamics of movement. J. Fish. Res. Board Can. 36: 384-391.



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